Sonically, it's similar to koa, but resonates a little deeper on the low end, although it doesn't have quite the full low end of rosewood or ovangkol. Brazilian Rosewood (Dalbergia Nigra) Easily recognized by its interlocking spider web type grain. Generally speaking I have more often liked cocobolo guitars compared to modern koa guitars. Truly stunning in its beauty, often blending shades of brown, orange and yellow within its haunting grain, cocobolo—from the same family as Brazilian rosewood—must be milled and sanded carefully. For the limited release, a new, premium, tone-enhancing feature was added to the GS, GA and GC styles: Adirondack spruce bracing. It's visual spectrum ranges from the most brilliant reds, all the way through to the purest black. Good Koa often has strong flame figure and is golden in color. Location: Ohio. Great guitars, particularly the small bodies. I can say that it is different sounding than, say, my D28 Authentic 1931, but it isn't any less special :-)  Come on over and hear it! Since this tree is a close relative of the Koa wood, which has been around for many years and has been considered a highly desirable tonewood for crafting guitars for the past five decades, there is a high possibility that people have used the Australian Blackwood to make guitars for at least three decades. Acoustasonic Koa (Image credit: courtesy of Fender) Fender has announced the release of the American Acoustasonic Telecaster hybrid acoustic/electric guitar in three new exotic tonewood iterations—koa, ziracote and cocobolo. What is the Most Common Chord Progression in the World? Cocobolo is a dense, stiff tropical hardwood with a fairly bright tone. Explore our in-house publication in a new digital experience. It has some of the brightness and warmth associated with Madi and Braz rosewood. Overall, it's not as heavy as a Les Paul, but significantly heavier than my other similarly-sized, non-chambered electrics. Non-cutaway Koa GS Limited and Cocobolo GS Limiteds are also available. What are your goals for this instrument? Super dense. Our Hybrid Koa tops combine Flamed Koa with a Western Red Cedar graft. Airborne EGF Member 24 - 93. I’m considering trading for an OM or 000 with spruce top and back and sides of either Koa or Cocobolo (I love highly figured grain). Hawaiian koa’s captivating beauty is matched by a tone that … Cocobolo, a dense hardwood from Central America, is stunning in its figuration and color range (from red to black). Taylor & Gismart Partner to Giveaway an Academy Series Guitar! The Acoustic Guitar Forum > General Acoustic Guitar and Amplification Discussion > General Acoustic Guitar Discussion: Cocobolo and with koa binding? Thank you. Component: Soundboard, Back, and Sides: Density kg/m3 Dried Weight: 1095: Hardness The resistance of wood to dents and wear. I have a redwood topped cocobolo Santa Cruz OM that is superb. Password: Register: FAQ: Calendar: Mark Forums Read : Page 1 of 2: 1: 2 > Thread Tools #1 12-19-2007, 05:28 PM almesy. Positions 1-2 are occupied by a Guatemalan HD28V and a Sinker Mahogany dread. “It has a curious elasticity which is really exploited when we use it for bracing.”. Koa: (Acacia Koa) is found only on the big island of Hawaii and as such is rare in good quality. So, if I were betting on a Martin 000/OM, I'd bet on cocobolo. Ziricote is fine. Eastman Guitar Fans Eastman Guitars Eastman Acoustic Guitars Koa/Cocobolo laminates. People who own koa tell me the sound does not change much over time. with Shawn Persinger, How to Take Care of Your Acoustic Guitar During the Summer, Taylor Primetime: Go Live with the Factory Team, COVID-19 Update: Taylor Factory Tours, In-Store Events Suspended, New for 2021: Updates to the Taylor Guitars Line, Taylor Guitars Presents Original Song “I Know What Love Is” to Benefit MusiCares, Taylor Transitions to 100% Employee Ownership Through an ESOP, Join Taylor Guitars at NAMM’s Believe in Music Virtual Conference, Acoustic Guitar Cutaways vs. Non-Cutaways, Four Play: Exclusive New Road Show Guitars Are Here. Koa is native to Hawaii and is used commonly on ukuleles, but less so on guitars. On a Cocobolo GS Limited, the woods are reversed, with swirling red-figured cocobolo forming the back and sides, and visual accents provided by a koa mini-wedge and koa binding. The koa LTDs are offered as the GA-LTD, GS-LTD or in a pair of 12-Fret GA and GC models, and with an option of an optional Engelmann spruce top. I have a Martin Adirondack/Cocobolo OM-28. It has by far the deepest bass and most lush overtones. It ranges in the drier elevations of Central America, from Panama to southwestern Mexico. #3 is currently all-Koa and is a good but not great guitar. In addition to the cocobolo top, the back, sides and of this guitar are made of smooth-playing white limba (also referred to as korina), marking an elegant compliment. An Unofficial forum for those who love Martin instruments - Founded by Steve Stallings. User Name: Remember Me? Wide board sets for guitars are becoming more difficult to get no matter how fast the tree grows. Though not often used by Yamaha, it’s become a popular wood for acoustic guitar backs and sides. Gold-plated tuners complete the feature upgrade for this limited edition version of the 714ce-LTD which includes a Taylor deluxe hard-shell case. Plus it looks great with a sapwood strip on the back. THE GUITAR IN THIS VIDEO HAS SOLD! Its weight varies somewhat from medium to heavy and is an excellent tone wood for bass guitar bodies. CLICK THE LINK BELOW TO CHECK OUT MORE! Of course other operating expenses have to be paid out of that $100 profit, so that would not mean the business is making "20% profit" overall. Taylor Celebrates 8 Years of Music In Schools, Taylor Guitars Road Show Draws Record Numbers, Taylor Road Show Draws Hundreds at Tobias Music. Cocobolo is fine. Posts: … Taylor Guitars is celebrating Fall with an exciting array of 2008 Fall Limited Editions, which feature two of the world’s most beautiful and sought-after tonewoods, Hawaiian koa and Mexican cocobolo. History with Building Guitars. Dalbergia retusa is the most common rosewood sold as Cocobolo. Hybrid Koa. It will darken over time to a more subdued look, but all the character is still there. Taylor’s range of Koa top guitars in particular are very appealing. There are at any given time a few there I'd be more than happy to own. It’s an authoritative reinforcement of my inclination. Western Red Cedar is a soft wood which produces a warm, mellow, ‘earthy’ tone. Koa back and sides reminds me of a maple sound. Expect a nice mid range without it being too warm, or bright tonally. I've sometimes had similar dissatisfaction with walnut, but when I commissioned a guitar from Howard Klepper, he encouraged me to consider walnut. Possibly the most gorgeous of all tonewoods. A Little Background on Koa: Koa trees are very large – known to grow as tall as 82ft with a spread of up to 39ft wide (even larger if growing in deep volcanic ash). Koa, another extremely dense wood, comes from Hawaii and therefore is never in huge supply. Sonically, it’s similar to koa, but resonates a little deeper on the low end, although it doesn’t have quite the full low end of rosewood or ovangkol. Check out the entire guitar here. I believe they buy at 40% of MSRP. J.Kinnaird Guitar A highly figured Cocobolo set on a Kinnaird guitar. Koa topped guitar is a really subdued tight sound. It’s not the loudest, but is the most complex. Why a 000 or OM? Which one you prefer honestly depends on a couple factors that you did not discuss: Acoustic Flat Tops by: Bashkin | Blanchard | Brondel | Buscarino | Chasson | Franklin | Klepper | Sexauer. It’s prized for its rich golden coloring, curly figuring, and agreeable sound. Koa is always beautiful but the sound is what it is.....not so special. Playing in dropped D is out of this world. Fast and responsive, with moderate note decay, it's articulate with lots of note distinction. I've felt that koa guitars (new ones) lacked the power and depth that I desired. Taylor Guitars is celebrating Fall with an exciting array of 2008 Fall Limited Editions, which feature two of the world’s most beautiful and sought-after tonewoods, Hawaiian koa and Mexican cocobolo. Is there a manufacturer or maker that you have in mind? The koa forests have been drastically depleted over the years, which explain the soaring prices: $300-$500 a set, and declining quality. breaking: 158: … So if the dealer invests $500 and sells for $600, that is a net profit (on that sale) of $100, or 20% of the investment. Cocobolo. Our expert staff is ready to assist you, Join the Taylor family and enjoy exclusive owner benefits, Tap into our network of Taylor-certified repair technicians. Both the koa and cocobolo LTDs feature Taylor’s premium CV bracing for sweet, responsive tone and a Venetian cutaway. Set for an October retail debut, the 2008 Fall Limiteds are offered in two distinct koa/cocobolo combinations on the Grand Symphony (GS), the Grand Auditorium (GA) and the Grand Concert (GC), while the 700 series limited includes a unique koa touch. The wood presents a gorgeous grain. Koa (Acacia koa): This very beautiful wood comes exclusively from Hawaii making supply very limited. Cocobolo. Some however, are just run of the mill. It also produces a deep sound, with a quick attack and lengthy sustain. The weight of the hardwood used in these tops results in less volume than most softwood tops. They exhibit a clean, fat tone with a strong fundamental punch and less overtones. Visually, Koa has been compared to Mahogany, while in terms of working and mechanical properties, it has been compared to Walnut. See a marvelous Bellucci Cocobolo guitar here ... See a marvelous Bellucci Hawaiian Koa guitar here → Hawaiian Koa has a clear warm sounding basses and crystal clear trebles. You own two dreadnoughts, one rosewood and the other mahogany. Just not pleasing to my ears. On average, there's a reason Taylor has enjoyed the success it has. With a bold voice and tone, the Koa GS Limited features exquisite, shimmering Hawaiian koa back and sides, and a mini back-wedge and binding of rich, exotic cocobolo. Free coffee and lunch, and maybe some jamming too. It's feature in Taylor's 2008 Fall Limited Edition guitar along with a tinge of Koa and some very classically arty guitar design. He was right...and then some! Adirondack is known for its extra elasticity that emits a sweeter, more balanced acoustic voice, a sound enhancement that company President Bob Taylor calls “magical.”, “All the notes across the spectrum become both more powerful and sweeter with Adirondack,” says Taylor. Figured Koa . Change Avatar. An individual luthier could change my choice though. Anyone who thinks that (all) Koa is not so special should drop by. Taylor’s popular Grand Auditorium body shape is well-represented in the 2008 Fall Limited lineup by the Koa GA Limited (pictured right) and Cocobolo GA Limited (pictured right), with premium appointments of gold Gotoh tuners, a bone nut and saddle, as well as an abalone top. I am near San Luis Obispo, on the California coast. To my ear cocobolo is like premium EI rosewood on steroids (or dare I say Brazilian Rosewood). I am currently limited to three guitars in my little collection. Its no heavier than any of the other guitars mentioned that I can tell. 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I’ve played it against a standard OM-28, OM-28 VTS, Collings OM3, a 000-18ge, a CEO-7, and other OMs I can’t think of. Measured as the amount of force required to embed a .444ml steel ball halfway into a sample of timber. It has more bass and depth than Koa but not as much as EIR. Used for: Soundboard. I don’t know much about Koa but I really like the Coco. Some down side is it is a pretty heavy material but the sound can be superb. Apples and oranges vs. an acoustic, but I have a Thorn electric with cocobolo top, fretboard, headcap and I was astounded at how heavy the guitar is considering it is chambered. This is frequently used as an acoustic guitar soundboard - especially on nylong string guitars - and has a warm, soft, open sound with beautiful overtones. The small-bodied, non-cutaway Grand Concerts, the Koa GC Limited and Cocobolo GC Limited, are topped with an elegant slotted headstock and feature a Sitka spruce top, and a cocobolo backstrap, with delicate pinstripe binding along the fretboard and peghead. Of course it helps. Would that be weird? Using Sound Optimization®, Breedlove treats each piece uniquely to create assertive guitars … Falling between rosewood and mahogany is koa—a tonewood Martin first used on guitars in 1917, as a craze for all things Hawaiian swept across America. And while I'm at it, my new Custom GA is crazy good. This is a friendly online community of Eastman Guitar players and owners; Registration is free - come and join the discussion! Cocobolo is a highly figured wood from Central America boasting a deep reddish-brown hue with a beautifully pronounced long, dark grain. Cocobolo - Falls somewhere between Koa and most of the other rosewoods. Cocobolo is a very capable material for backs and sides. either Koa or Cocobolo (I love highly figured grain). Tone wise, it is particularly striking when built as a Double top. Due to its density, a new koa guitar often starts out sounding bright – but the more it is played, the more the sound opens up with a beautifully rich, resonant tone. It adds a huge presence to the OM28. I have played a few koa guitars by small shops that were as as good as any. This Cocobolo is highly unusual in that it features lots of color variation as well as curly figure. All of Taylor’s 2008 Fall Limiteds come with Taylor’s Expression System® pickup, for premium quality amplified acoustic sound. Details: Koa is widely considered to be the most beautiful and useful of Hawaii’s native hardwoods, and along with Monkey Pod and Mango, it is the most common Hawaiian species to be imported into the lower 48 United States. Warm unlike anything else, Koa guitars are mellow sounding. Cocobolo Rosewood (Dalbergia Restusa) This beautiful orange red colored wood comes from Latin America and is a true Rosewood (Dalbergia Retusa). Also, keep in mind that while Taylor did have some cocobolo guitars crack, it was a VERY small percentage of the total output of cocobolo guitars. Used for many years for classical guitar soundboards but has recently become popular with steel strings players. Take a peek, because you don't see too much Cocobolo around anymore. It’s just too expensive. To round out the Fall Limited Editions, an upgraded version of one of Taylor’s most popular deluxe models, the 714ce-LTD (pictured right), features back and sides of rich Hawaiian koa, a gently sloping Venetian cutaway, and a top of Western Red cedar, for the distinctive “airy” sound and excellent note definition that fingerstylists love. Taylor Guitars describes the tonal qualities for cocobolo as this: ”Cocobolo is a dense, stiff tropical hardwood with a fairly bright tone. 14140: Tensile Strength Bending strength before rupturing e.g. Their guitars are outstanding by and large. I like them to be high quality and different. New Reply #1. Other woods seem to get dryer and more resonant as they age. Do you play with a pick or your fingers. This website uses cookies for functionality, analytics and advertising purposes as described in our. Martin custom Koa slope shoulder, D-28A 1931, Gibson A4, octave mandolin banjo, Eastman mandocello and other stuff. Start here for an easy overview of our acoustic line, Explore the design details of all current Taylor models, Solid woods and V-Class bracing meet exceptional value, Learn more about our revolutionary bracing system, The sleeker, more compact sibling of the original T5, The versatile semi-hollowbody with coil-splitting & more, Your dream Taylor electric. An individual luthier could change my choice though. 08-24-2020, 10:27 AM. https://www.eastmanguitarfans.com; Koa/Cocobolo laminates. Generally speaking I have more often liked cocobolo guitars compared to modern koa guitars. Cocobolo usually has a focus to the midrange with shimmering highs. The type of top and how it is braced and voiced will be more influential than your choice of back and side woods. CUSTOMER SERVICE UNITED STATES & CANADA 1-800-943-6782, CUSTOMER SERVICE EUROPE & INTERNATIONAL +31 (0)20 667 6033, Copyright © 2012-2020 TAYLOR-LISTUG, INC. All Rights Reserved / ACTUAL PRICES ARE SET BY GLOBAL DEALERS. The tone of Koa is warm, rich and creamy. Appointments include dusky Indian rosewood body binding, sparkling abalone fretboard dots, and an abalone soundhole rosette. Shop Martin Guitar Guitars and a variety of guitars, apparel, accessories, and more! Natural History. Love them both-they aren’t going anywhere. Koa has a warm sound similar to mahogany, but with a little more brightness. He likes building with it and was confident he could achieve what I wanted. Cocobolo is a beautifully figured wood. Profit Margin, as it works in my business anyway, is not as shown above. Charter Member : Join Date: Feb 2007. Seriously loving it. Are you sure about that margin? Welcome to Eastman Guitar Fans! Freakin' beautiful beyond belief though: Subscribe now for emails with guitar giveaways and prizes, cool deals, guitar news and more from Taylor Guitars! Similar tone characteristics as Bubinga and Tasmanian Blackwood. Cocobolo will lean towards what your rosewood guitar does and koa will lean towards what the mahogany guitar does. “Heck, I don’t want to hear me sing ‘Lyin’ Eyes’ either!”. Port Orford Cedar . COCOBOLO Wild oranges, browns, even yellow and black are featured in the magnificent grain of Cocobolo. Visit me if you come up the Coast Highway north of Santa Barbara (San Luis Obispo), Free coffee and good company. It offers a very robust, warm sound much like that of Brazilian Rosewood. The percentage is the net profit per dollar spent. So, if I were betting on a Martin 000/OM, I'd bet on cocobolo. Something about Koa guitars invites you to play for hours and hours. I just got a Martin custom with Koa back and sides that is a beautiful instrument, looks and sound. MODEL: SOUNDBOARD: SHAPES : 35 KO/AS: Alpine Spruce: S: View Guitar: BACK AND SIDES Cocobolo SOUNDBOARD Sitka Spruce or Redwood ROSETTE Abalone, Rosewood BINDING Figured maple: PURFLING Maple, rosewood, mahogany TUNERS Gotoh Gold/Ebony 510 BACK CENTRE SEAM Figured maple BRIDGE Rosewood: NECK 5 piece: Mahogany / Rosewood / Walnut HEADSTOCK …
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